Canadians going to WC
08/06/2011 3:33:05 PM
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With the qualification period ending today who is in and who is out. Here is a list from the AC news release after Nationals plus some additions I can think of since then. [b]World Championship Qualifiers[/b] [b]Name Event Hometown Club[/b] Ruky Abdulai Heptathon Coquitlam, B.C. Valley Royals Dylan Armstrong Shot Put Kamloops, B.C. Kamloops Sam Effah 100m U of C Athletics Club Crystal Emmanuel 200m Scarborough, Ont. Alice Falaiye Long Jump Brampton, Ont. Unattached Perdita Felicien 100m Hurdles Pickering, Ont. Over the Top Sultana Frizell Hammer Throw Perth, Ont. Ottawa Lions Phylicia George 100m Hurdles Markham, Ont. Project Athletics Nikkita Holder 100m Hurdles Pickering, Ont. Elite Edge Julie Labonté Shot Put Ste-Justine, Que. Fleur de Lys Heather Steacy Hammer Throw Lethbridge, Alta. Chinook Jim Steacy Hammer Throw Lethbridge, Alta. Chinook Jessica Zelinka Heptathlon London, Ont. Unattached Plus.. Andrew Ellerton 800m Alex Genest Steeple Rising Stars? Geoff Martinson 1500m Matt Hughes Steeple There are probably others that I have missed (including relays) so go ahead and add/edit this list. In 2009 Canada sent 31 athletes to the WC. Including the rising stars there are 18 individuals and if you add in 8-10 relay runners the total comes close to 30. Hopefully the team will be announced shortly. [i]I see a tweet on the AC site saying the team will be officially announced on Thursday morning.[/i][b][/b]
With the qualification period ending today who is in and who is out.

Here is a list from the AC news release after Nationals plus some additions I can think of since then.

World Championship Qualifiers

Name Event Hometown Club
Ruky Abdulai Heptathon Coquitlam, B.C. Valley Royals
Dylan Armstrong Shot Put Kamloops, B.C. Kamloops
Sam Effah 100m U of C Athletics Club
Crystal Emmanuel 200m Scarborough, Ont.
Alice Falaiye Long Jump Brampton, Ont. Unattached
Perdita Felicien 100m Hurdles Pickering, Ont. Over the Top
Sultana Frizell Hammer Throw Perth, Ont. Ottawa Lions
Phylicia George 100m Hurdles Markham, Ont. Project Athletics
Nikkita Holder 100m Hurdles Pickering, Ont. Elite Edge
Julie Labonté Shot Put Ste-Justine, Que. Fleur de Lys
Heather Steacy Hammer Throw Lethbridge, Alta. Chinook
Jim Steacy Hammer Throw Lethbridge, Alta. Chinook
Jessica Zelinka Heptathlon London, Ont. Unattached

Plus..
Andrew Ellerton 800m
Alex Genest Steeple

Rising Stars?
Geoff Martinson 1500m
Matt Hughes Steeple

There are probably others that I have missed (including relays) so go ahead and add/edit this list.

In 2009 Canada sent 31 athletes to the WC. Including the rising stars there are 18 individuals and if you add in 8-10 relay runners the total comes close to 30.

Hopefully the team will be announced shortly.

I see a tweet on the AC site saying the team will be officially announced on Thursday morning.
08/09/2011 10:24:22 PM
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Geoff Martinson is going http://www.runmartinson.ca/
Geoff Martinson is going

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08/11/2011 11:25:56 AM
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@FT58 While we await AC official news this morning you can check out the US team. http://www.flotrack.org/article/7164-Team-USA-Announced-for-Daegu-includes-8-defending-champs-and-19-medalists or maybe South Africa...including Pistorius and Semenya http://www.southafrica.info/news/sport/athletics-110811.htm Great Britain http://www.athleticsweekly.com/news/great-britain-name-team-for-world-athletics-championships/ Ireland http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/athletics_irish/44140/
@FT58
While we await AC official news this morning you can check out the US team.

http://www.flotrack.org/article/7164-Team-USA-Announced-for-Daegu-includes-8-defending-champs-and-19-medalists

or maybe South Africa...including Pistorius and Semenya
http://www.southafrica.info/news/sport/athletics-110811.htm

Great Britain
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/news/great-britain-name-team-for-world-athletics-championships/

Ireland
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/athletics_irish/44140/
08/11/2011 1:57:42 PM
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@runner1958 Athletics Canada names team for World Championships in Korea Thursday, August 11, 2011 OTTAWA - Athletics Canada named today a contingent of 32 athletes who will travel to Daegu, South Korea for the 2011 World Championships in Athletics. The biggest sporting event of 2011 will feature athletes from over 200 countries converging for nine days of competition on a state of the art Mondo SportFlex Super X track. The World Championships run August 27 through September 4 with the Canadian team beginning departures on August 14 for a final preparation camp in Changwon City, South Korea. Full story here: http://www.athletics.ca/display_news.asp?newsid=1219
@runner1958

Athletics Canada names team for World Championships in Korea

Thursday, August 11, 2011

OTTAWA - Athletics Canada named today a contingent of 32 athletes who will travel to Daegu, South Korea for the 2011 World Championships in Athletics. The biggest sporting event of 2011 will feature athletes from over 200 countries converging for nine days of competition on a state of the art Mondo SportFlex Super X track. The World Championships run August 27 through September 4 with the Canadian team beginning departures on August 14 for a final preparation camp in Changwon City, South Korea.

Full story here: http://www.athletics.ca/display_news.asp?newsid=1219
08/12/2011 4:30:29 PM
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For a country who cannot afford to send athletes on National teams (Pan Am Juniors World Student, World Youth etc,) it is amazing the fat that is on this one. Do we really need to send all these support personnel, yet can't afford a larger team? Wouldn't Nate Brannen running the 1500m help us more than a lot of these people - many of whom aren't personal coaches and will mostly sit around watching the meet? If we have such high standards for athletes, how about the coaches? Technical Staff Alex Gardiner Head Coach Martin Goulet Team Leader Scott MacDonald Technical Manager Glenroy Gilbert Sprints & Relay Wynn Gmitroski Middle Distance Les Gramantik Combined Events, Hurdles Molly Killingbeck Jean Laroche Wheelchair Events Carla Nicholls Combined Events, Hurdles Larry Steinke Throws Gary Winckler Hurdles, Combined Events Integrated Support Team Garfield Crooks Massage Therapist Melissa Dowling Athlete Services Manager Mathieu Gentès Communications Dr. Wilbour Kelsick Chiropractor Bob Powls Physiotherapist Dr. Carmine Stillo Chiropractor Dr. Linda Thyer Physician Dana Way Sport Biomechanist & Performance Analyst
For a country who cannot afford to send athletes on National teams (Pan Am Juniors World Student, World Youth etc,) it is amazing the fat that is on this one. Do we really need to send all these support personnel, yet can't afford a larger team?

Wouldn't Nate Brannen running the 1500m help us more than a lot of these people - many of whom aren't personal coaches and will mostly sit around watching the meet?

If we have such high standards for athletes, how about the coaches?

Technical Staff
Alex Gardiner Head Coach
Martin Goulet Team Leader
Scott MacDonald Technical Manager
Glenroy Gilbert
Sprints & Relay
Wynn Gmitroski
Middle Distance
Les Gramantik
Combined Events, Hurdles
Molly Killingbeck
Jean Laroche
Wheelchair Events
Carla Nicholls
Combined Events, Hurdles
Larry Steinke
Throws
Gary Winckler
Hurdles, Combined Events

Integrated Support Team
Garfield Crooks
Massage Therapist
Melissa Dowling
Athlete Services Manager
Mathieu Gentès
Communications
Dr. Wilbour Kelsick
Chiropractor
Bob Powls
Physiotherapist
Dr. Carmine Stillo
Chiropractor
Dr. Linda Thyer
Physician
Dana Way
Sport Biomechanist & Performance Analyst
08/12/2011 9:07:18 PM
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@Canrunner2662 Hey, it's the Canadian way, eh - the OTP direction. Look forward to the day when Canada sends 3 athletes, all with good chances of being medallists, and 27 staff to help out our 3 athletes. That's what the trend line indicates. What a f***ing joke!
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Hey, it's the Canadian way, eh - the OTP direction.
Look forward to the day when Canada sends 3 athletes, all with good chances of being medallists, and 27 staff to help out our 3 athletes. That's what the trend line indicates. What a f***ing joke!
08/13/2011 3:29:14 PM
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@traveller Some of these staff will be useful. However, I have to question: Martin Goulet - will do what exactly to benefit this team? Carla Nicholls - has coached/developed no National level athletes, yet is qualified by AC to be a "professional" coach Molly Killingbeck - has coached/developed no athletes, yet has a "name" that qualifies her to be a "professional" coach. Scott MacDonald - needs to be at the meet instead of in the AC office because...? Gary Winckler is now a paid AC staff member. Can't question his success with Perdita, but now he is part of the Calgary Centre while living in the U.S.??!
@traveller
Some of these staff will be useful. However, I have to question:
Martin Goulet - will do what exactly to benefit this team?
Carla Nicholls - has coached/developed no National level athletes, yet is qualified by AC to be a "professional" coach
Molly Killingbeck - has coached/developed no athletes, yet has a "name" that qualifies her to be a "professional" coach.
Scott MacDonald - needs to be at the meet instead of in the AC office because...?
Gary Winckler is now a paid AC staff member. Can't question his success with Perdita, but now he is part of the Calgary Centre while living in the U.S.??!
08/13/2011 3:45:54 PM
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32 athletes and 19 support staff. Nice ratio. I heard that the kids who qualified for Youth Worlds each had to pay around $3500 for the honour of representing the country. I wonder how much of that went to pay for "support". Obviously, some support staff (medical/physio types are very important) are needed and a head coach for logistical items but unless you are lucky enough to have your own personal coach selected, I can't see why it is important to have any specific event coaches along. I remember when I raced at the world triathlon championships on the age group team a number of years ago and was doing an easy practice swim the day before the race ..... the assistant coach who was a swim specialist and was out on the water in a kayak and paddled over and starts trying to get me to totally change my stroke ...... the day before the world championships is going to be a little late for a swim stroke overhaul even though I would agree that my swim sucked! I can't imagine someone on the coaching staff at worlds trying to talk strategy or form with an athlete coached by someone else and being of any use right before the competition.
32 athletes and 19 support staff. Nice ratio. I heard that the kids who qualified for Youth Worlds each had to pay around $3500 for the honour of representing the country. I wonder how much of that went to pay for "support". Obviously, some support staff (medical/physio types are very important) are needed and a head coach for logistical items but unless you are lucky enough to have your own personal coach selected, I can't see why it is important to have any specific event coaches along. I remember when I raced at the world triathlon championships on the age group team a number of years ago and was doing an easy practice swim the day before the race ..... the assistant coach who was a swim specialist and was out on the water in a kayak and paddled over and starts trying to get me to totally change my stroke ...... the day before the world championships is going to be a little late for a swim stroke overhaul even though I would agree that my swim sucked! I can't imagine someone on the coaching staff at worlds trying to talk strategy or form with an athlete coached by someone else and being of any use right before the competition.
08/13/2011 6:57:38 PM
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Well, Killingbeck, who was also on the Pan Am junior team this year, and was named by Charlie Francis in the Dubin Inquiry as a steroid user (although she never tested positive), can teach the young athletes about not getting caught. Look, of course we need some support personnel, but how about sending their personal coaches instead. These others are of little use. The other thing is that it is the same people year after year. The same people who have been unable to get Canada Athletics on the international map. The other thing killing Athletics Canada is that they are still drunk with the idea of attaching themselves to people they perceive to have had "success" in the past as members of the Francis group in the 80s - Killingbeck, Tyler, Williams - who were or are paid coaches now.
Well, Killingbeck, who was also on the Pan Am junior team this year, and was named by Charlie Francis in the Dubin Inquiry as a steroid user (although she never tested positive), can teach the young athletes about not getting caught.

Look, of course we need some support personnel, but how about sending their personal coaches instead. These others are of little use. The other thing is that it is the same people year after year. The same people who have been unable to get Canada Athletics on the international map. The other thing killing Athletics Canada is that they are still drunk with the idea of attaching themselves to people they perceive to have had "success" in the past as members of the Francis group in the 80s - Killingbeck, Tyler, Williams - who were or are paid coaches now.
08/15/2011 2:32:11 AM
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@Canrunner2662 Interesting. I also was a little disappointed to not see Nate Brannen go as he seemed to be running quite well. I'm interested to see how well the 4 x 100 team can go. Do we deserve a rationale as to the use of all these staff members? Quite frankly, I can't really complain as I've never seen any good description of what they all do. Maybe someone can explain.
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Interesting. I also was a little disappointed to not see Nate Brannen go as he seemed to be running quite well. I'm interested to see how well the 4 x 100 team can go.

Do we deserve a rationale as to the use of all these staff members? Quite frankly, I can't really complain as I've never seen any good description of what they all do.
Maybe someone can explain.
08/29/2011 11:07:00 PM
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Martinson ran a nice tactical race so it really didn't make that much of a difference if Brannen went or not. its tough for them with AC expecting a lot from our guys against the world class competition so its good to see him (and Genest) getting some experience. Hughes has just had a long season and I've noticed the way its went this season, it looks like he races A LOT better running with an inside water pit instead of an outside water pit as it allows for consistant ~400m laps instead of 420+m laps. what happened to Ellerton in the heats? As for sending athletes, Part of the problem regarding Brannen is that you can only race one athlete with the B. despite Brannen and Milne not running, the reason Martinson is a rising star is because they were both eligible by the IAAF to compete at worlds with the B standard (if experienced, you need to have hit the A as well to be AC eligible)
Martinson ran a nice tactical race so it really didn't make that much of a difference if Brannen went or not. its tough for them with AC expecting a lot from our guys against the world class competition so its good to see him (and Genest) getting some experience.

Hughes has just had a long season and I've noticed the way its went this season, it looks like he races A LOT better running with an inside water pit instead of an outside water pit as it allows for consistant ~400m laps instead of 420+m laps.

what happened to Ellerton in the heats?

As for sending athletes, Part of the problem regarding Brannen is that you can only race one athlete with the B. despite Brannen and Milne not running, the reason Martinson is a rising star is because they were both eligible by the IAAF to compete at worlds with the B standard (if experienced, you need to have hit the A as well to be AC eligible)

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