Who had the best double on the Weekend?
06/06/2011 10:30:24 PM
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Nominations please: McBride's 400 and 800 in Ontario (46.9 and 1:51.7) Katie Reid's 200 400 in BC 24.5 and 54.? Keffri Neal's 800 1500 in BC (3:50. 1:52) Brennan in Ontario (Does Junior count) Any others I've missed?
Nominations please:

McBride's 400 and 800 in Ontario (46.9 and 1:51.7)

Katie Reid's 200 400 in BC 24.5 and 54.?

Keffri Neal's 800 1500 in BC (3:50. 1:52)

Brennan in Ontario (Does Junior count)

Any others I've missed?
06/06/2011 11:11:47 PM
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Brennan. All five of the aforementioned athletes had incredible performances this week, however anyone who wins 3 ofsaa gold, and breaks 3 ofsaa records in a single weekend, after setting the Canadian interscholastic record in the 200 a few days previous, not to mention she ran all three races completely uncontested by any other junior athlete in Ontario, deserves extremely high recognition. With her times, she would have won ofsaa gold in the 200 and 400 and a silver in the 100 in the senior category, coming very close to senior ofsaa records in the process. 53.6, 23.56 and 11.77 over one weekend by a 16 year old speaks for itself.
Brennan. All five of the aforementioned athletes had incredible performances this week, however anyone who wins 3 ofsaa gold, and breaks 3 ofsaa records in a single weekend, after setting the Canadian interscholastic record in the 200 a few days previous, not to mention she ran all three races completely uncontested by any other junior athlete in Ontario, deserves extremely high recognition. With her times, she would have won ofsaa gold in the 200 and 400 and a silver in the 100 in the senior category, coming very close to senior ofsaa records in the process. 53.6, 23.56 and 11.77 over one weekend by a 16 year old speaks for itself.
06/06/2011 11:20:41 PM
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@FT58 ahmen!!!!!
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06/07/2011 12:56:55 AM
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@livefreedieproud I can't really argue with that. What were some other good performances? One I can think of is Kaitlan Hayward in BC 3000m 9:55 and 1500 steeple 4:58
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I can't really argue with that.

What were some other good performances?

One I can think of is Kaitlan Hayward in BC
3000m 9:55 and 1500 steeple 4:58
06/07/2011 10:40:49 AM
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@bryano I think it was King's triple. It will be interesting to see if he has one monster performance in him with a little rest and only one race. BTW, I was not overly impressed with Yves double. Obviously he was good, but I like King's chances of running 8:10 before Yves does.
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I think it was King's triple. It will be interesting to see if he has one monster performance in him with a little rest and only one race.
BTW, I was not overly impressed with Yves double. Obviously he was good, but I like King's chances of running 8:10 before Yves does.
06/07/2011 11:41:05 PM
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@powerboy Yeah Yves wasn't that impressive, he only ran the fastest 3k at ofsaa in the past 10 years (Leeder, Woods, Smith, Mo, Benniger, Nova, Scull) and won a tactical 1500m. Probably won't break 8:10 soon either, I just don't see him improving 8 seconds in the 3000m considering he is in grade 11/12 training with the best runners in Ottawa. Not gunna happen.
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Yeah Yves wasn't that impressive, he only ran the fastest 3k at ofsaa in the past 10 years (Leeder, Woods, Smith, Mo, Benniger, Nova, Scull) and won a tactical 1500m. Probably won't break 8:10 soon either, I just don't see him improving 8 seconds in the 3000m considering he is in grade 11/12 training with the best runners in Ottawa. Not gunna happen.
06/08/2011 11:06:21 AM
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@bb864 8:18 isnt so impressive when you've run 8:18 before, and 8:20. Woodfine was much more impressive for his breakthrough. If Yves had led the 1500 intstead of Denault, Denault would have outkicked him.
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8:18 isnt so impressive when you've run 8:18 before, and 8:20. Woodfine was much more impressive for his breakthrough.
If Yves had led the 1500 intstead of Denault, Denault would have outkicked him.
06/08/2011 10:41:10 PM
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@powerboy Your an idiot and let me explain why. So what your saying is that Yves performance wasn't impressive because he ran 8:18 the week before. Think of the following scenarios.. Christian Brennan must be a dud because she set the Canadian interscholastic record in the 200m at South region a week prior and couldn't duplicate her performance at Ofsaa. Brendon Mcbride had a similar terrible outing because he ran a 1:50.2 a few weeks prior and could only muster a 1:51.3 at Ofsaa. Woodfine had a great outing because he came within 6 seconds (?) of his PR which he set 2 years ago. (I am a Woodfine fan and he did great under his circumstances) A lot of people who competed had great races and certainly got to show their hard work and training. Just think next time before you make such absurd statements.
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Your an idiot and let me explain why.

So what your saying is that Yves performance wasn't impressive because he ran 8:18 the week before. Think of the following scenarios..

Christian Brennan must be a dud because she set the Canadian interscholastic record in the 200m at South region a week prior and couldn't duplicate her performance at Ofsaa.

Brendon Mcbride had a similar terrible outing because he ran a 1:50.2 a few weeks prior and could only muster a 1:51.3 at Ofsaa.

Woodfine had a great outing because he came within 6 seconds (?) of his PR which he set 2 years ago. (I am a Woodfine fan and he did great under his circumstances)

A lot of people who competed had great races and certainly got to show their hard work and training. Just think next time before you make such absurd statements.
06/09/2011 7:26:18 AM
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@bb864 *you're.
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*you're.
06/09/2011 9:39:22 AM
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@speedgoggles Haha I realized that after I posted and didn't fix it. Thanks for pointing it out though.
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Haha I realized that after I posted and didn't fix it. Thanks for pointing it out though.
06/09/2011 10:24:30 AM
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@bb864 Patience grasshopper and you will learn something. On further reflection McBride's double was the best of the weekend by far. In beating Moona, he beat the best opponent that anyone faced in their respective races.(Similar to someone beating Brennan) Then, being a 400/800 runner, a valid question was how would he fare in the 4th race against fit guys. The answer is that he was great. Yves was not great-just very good. Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr.In that context 8:18 is only good. I think McBride will run 1:48.5 in the next month.That is what his performance showed me. If Yves runs 3:45 or 8:10, great, but so far my money is on McBride. But don't take offense. This is an opinion forum. You have a good and strong opinion, as do I. Keep them coming.
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Patience grasshopper and you will learn something.
On further reflection McBride's double was the best of the weekend by far. In beating Moona, he beat the best opponent that anyone faced in their respective races.(Similar to someone beating Brennan)
Then, being a 400/800 runner, a valid question was how would he fare in the 4th race against fit guys. The answer is that he was great.
Yves was not great-just very good. Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr.In that context 8:18 is only good.
I think McBride will run 1:48.5 in the next month.That is what his performance showed me. If Yves runs 3:45 or 8:10, great, but so far my money is on McBride.
But don't take offense. This is an opinion forum. You have a good and strong opinion, as do I. Keep them coming.
06/09/2011 12:00:33 PM
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[quote=powerboy]@bb864 On further reflection McBride's double was the best of the weekend by far. In beating Moona, he beat the best opponent that anyone faced in their respective races.(Similar to someone beating Brennan) Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr.In that context 8:18 is only good.[/quote] @powerboy 1. I thought we established Mcbride didn't have a good meet because he didn't PR in the 800m? 2. Moona is a great runner, no denying that but no one had a chance in hell to beat Brennan. She is world class. They aren't comparable. 3. "Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr". Do you realize how hard it is to PR by that much in a 3k? I'm not sure what trends you have examined but they are incorrect. If this is correct, 7 or 8 of the senior boys field would be under 8:20. 4. I have not taken any offense, I'm just stunned at your outlandish comments.
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@bb864

On further reflection McBride's double was the best of the weekend by far. In beating Moona, he beat the best opponent that anyone faced in their respective races.(Similar to someone beating Brennan)
Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr.In that context 8:18 is only good.


@powerboy

1. I thought we established Mcbride didn't have a good meet because he didn't PR in the 800m?

2. Moona is a great runner, no denying that but no one had a chance in hell to beat Brennan. She is world class. They aren't comparable.

3. "Historically guys run 10-15 sec prs in the 3k at ofsaa, and very rarely do they not even pr". Do you realize how hard it is to PR by that much in a 3k? I'm not sure what trends you have examined but they are incorrect. If this is correct, 7 or 8 of the senior boys field would be under 8:20.

4. I have not taken any offense, I'm just stunned at your outlandish comments.
06/09/2011 1:53:58 PM
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[quote=FT58] ...3 ofsaa gold, and breaks 3 ofsaa records in a single weekend...[/quote] @FT58 Correct. If King's double is better, so was his choice to go to Brock. [quote=speedgoggles]@bb864 *you're.[/quote] FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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...3 ofsaa gold, and breaks 3 ofsaa records in a single weekend...


@FT58 Correct. If King's double is better, so was his choice to go to Brock.

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*you're.

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06/09/2011 3:40:22 PM
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@gazoo King is not actually going to Brock.
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King is not actually going to Brock.
06/09/2011 4:39:16 PM
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@bb864 No, you used a witty retort to sugest that McBride didn't have a great weekend because he didn't pr in the 800. As I set out, his 4 races collectively, with the 4th being the final of the 800 were great, and the best result of the weekend. I do agree with you that right now Brennan is unbeatable, so beating Moona was not as difficult as beating her would be. Lets see what happens this weekend.
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No, you used a witty retort to sugest that McBride didn't have a great weekend because he didn't pr in the 800.
As I set out, his 4 races collectively, with the 4th being the final of the 800 were great, and the best result of the weekend.
I do agree with you that right now Brennan is unbeatable, so beating Moona was not as difficult as beating her would be.
Lets see what happens this weekend.
06/09/2011 4:55:33 PM
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@fifteenhundred [quote=grant93]... Xavier King is going to be going to become a noble badger at Brock university....[/quote] I sure hope not. I thought TnF North was the word on everything.
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... Xavier King is going to be going to become a noble badger at Brock university....


I sure hope not. I thought TnF North was the word on everything.
06/09/2011 6:31:30 PM
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@gazoo nice job feeding the troll. on topic: as for best double (or triple), this one easily goes to Brennan, but ONLY because she was out of the league in all 3 of here events, even compared to the senior level. Sprint doubles are far easier to pull than distance doubles, and with king being exausted at the end of his quadruple, we all know he is capaable of more than 5:51, 3:55 and 8:23. you cannot perform an all out distance double where as you could easily pull an all-out sprint triple. if anyone tried to run full out in both events on a 1500/steeple double at NCAA let alone a 5000/10000 double, they would be ran down in at least one of the events. McBride's double looked much better on paper than what it actually is. how much does the 400 really take out of you as opposed to even a 90% effort 1500? in my view, Distance doubles are really far more impressive than sprint doubles because of how much harder it is to pull them, but you cannot deny a national-beater on this one.
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nice job feeding the troll.

on topic:
as for best double (or triple), this one easily goes to Brennan, but ONLY because she was out of the league in all 3 of here events, even compared to the senior level. Sprint doubles are far easier to pull than distance doubles, and with king being exausted at the end of his quadruple, we all know he is capaable of more than 5:51, 3:55 and 8:23. you cannot perform an all out distance double where as you could easily pull an all-out sprint triple. if anyone tried to run full out in both events on a 1500/steeple double at NCAA let alone a 5000/10000 double, they would be ran down in at least one of the events.

McBride's double looked much better on paper than what it actually is. how much does the 400 really take out of you as opposed to even a 90% effort 1500?

in my view, Distance doubles are really far more impressive than sprint doubles because of how much harder it is to pull them, but you cannot deny a national-beater on this one.
06/10/2011 2:36:13 AM
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@ERL_19 McBride's double was not as good as Keffri Neal's double in BC. I agree Brennan's was the best, but on the distance side, Neal tied the BC 1500m record in 3:50.16 - with a huge finish (1:59 and 56.2). 1 hr and 45 mins later, he beat Canada's 2nd ranked Junior 800m runner in the 800m in 1:52.3. McBride didn't have as good of opposition in the 800m. Yves is close as he beat great runners in both the 3000m and 1500m.
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McBride's double was not as good as Keffri Neal's double in BC.

I agree Brennan's was the best, but on the distance side, Neal tied the BC 1500m record in 3:50.16 - with a huge finish (1:59 and 56.2). 1 hr and 45 mins later, he beat Canada's 2nd ranked Junior 800m runner in the 800m in 1:52.3.

McBride didn't have as good of opposition in the 800m. Yves is close as he beat great runners in both the 3000m and 1500m.
06/10/2011 11:22:24 AM
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@Canrunner2662 Additional facts are helpful. I didn't think much about Neal's double one way or the other just from the listing of it. But I like that finish in the 1500 and the fact that the 800 was less than 2 hrs later. Very impressive. Should be some good battles at Jrs.
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Additional facts are helpful. I didn't think much about Neal's double one way or the other just from the listing of it. But I like that finish in the 1500 and the fact that the 800 was less than 2 hrs later. Very impressive.
Should be some good battles at Jrs.

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